February 8, 2010
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As a follow-up to SBC Pastor Ed Young Jr In Luxury Cover-Up? here at Apprising Ministries I point you to Ed Young Jr’s blog where he tells us he’s Setting Things Straight and Moving On.
In introducing his video of the same title at his blog today Young, Jr says:
I took the opportunity to thank the church and address some recent news coverage. And now, we will continue to move forward and follow God in the work He is doing here. (Online source)
As I watched the video a couple of things came emerging in my view; 1) it seems the board members protesteth too much, and 2) The first to plead his case seems right, Until another comes and examines him (Proverbs 18:17, NASB). So stay tuned; indeed, likely we ain’t seen nothing yet.
*UPDATE* Christian apologist Chris Rosebrough, host of the Fighting for the Faith (FftF) program on Pirate Christian Radio (PCR), has been examining this issue further and shares his findings in Ed Young’s Admissions Are More Damning Than The Original News Story.
In addition tonight Rosebrough tweeted:
I’m gonna put @EdYoung ’s admissions in proper perspective on tomorrow’s program. His admissions are VERY damaging. (Online source)
Rosebrough’s FftF program airs on PCR weekdays at 6pm EST
See also:
BUT SOUTHERN BAPTISTS SAY OK TO “BISHOP” T.D.JAKES
LETTER TO ED YOUNG, JR. REGARDING ONENESS PENTECOSTAL DR. T.D. JAKES SHARING THE PULPIT IN HIS SBC CHURCH
SOUTHERN BAPTIST PASTOR ED YOUNG, JR.: CHURCH LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE IS NOT ABOUT THEOLOGY
WORD FAITH MOGUL “BISHOP” T.D. JAKES – A SOUTHERN BAPTIST PREACHER?
SBC SECOND VICE PRESIDENT DR. WILEY DRAKE COMMENTS ON ED YOUNG, JR. SHARING HIS SBC PULPIT AGAIN WITH ONENESS PENTECOSTAL T.D. JAKES
RESPONSE FROM GARY LEDBETTER OF “SOUTHERN BAPTIST TEXAN” CONCERNING DR. T.D. JAKES AT ED YOUNG, JR’S CREATIVE CHURCH CONFERENCE 2007
KEEPING YOU APPRISED OF: T.D. JAKES ON THE TRINITY
February 8, 2010
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“We have not enough self-denial; and that is one reason why we do not prosper. Far be it from me to say aught against the self-denial of those worthy brethren who have left their country to cross the stormy deep to preach the Word. We hold them to be men who are to be [...]
February 8, 2010
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I am all for Christians being involved in politics. I have never been shy regarding that. Nor have I been shy in stating that Islam is an evil, violent religion…it is. However, we must never forget that the Gospel is the power of God. Not morality, not political activity, not community service, nothing….nothing but the [...]
February 8, 2010
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As I told you e.g. in Emerging Church And TransFORM’s Steve Knight ”Communication + Mission” specialist Knight founded this latest network of the sinfully ecumenical Emerging Church aka Emergent Church—that morphed into Emergence Christianity—(EC). Today Knight wants us to know that:
just posted a comment for Jeremy @Bouma on his post “Goodbye Emergent”: http://bit.ly/b1rziT (Online source)
You may recall Jeremy Bouma from the Apprising Ministries piece Did Rob Bell Forget The Cross? There Bouma, who used to refer to himself as an “emerging- missional follower of Jesus,” shared his experience at the Poets, Prophets, Peachers (PPP) conference put on last year by Emerging Church icon Rob Bell, which also featured his equally heretical friends Peter Rollins and his now co-teaching pastor Shane Hipps.
Bouma was live blogging from PPP where, concerning Bell’s mystical musings, he pondered:
I also am curious why The Story that Rob was encouraging us pastors to tell was missing the Event of the Cross, the point at which God objectively dealt with the three objective realities of evil, sin, and death… While he also emphasized the resurrection as key to the New Creation, I am confused HOW even the resurrection is made possible or actually does something for US without the Event of the Cross. (Online source)
Well, possibly that event may have had something to do with Bouma looking at the sinfully ecumenical Emerging Church aka Emergent Church—that morphed into Emergence Christianity—(EC) in a new way. The above link from Steve Knight takes us to Bouma’s post today Goodbye Emergent: Why I’m Taking The Theology of the Emerging Church To Task where he informs us:
Once upon a time I was enamored by the “I-am-not-a-movement-but-a-conversation” known as the emerging church (In fact, at my seminary I’ve been known as Emergent Jeremy!) Five years ago, I stumbled upon an “emerging” author known as Brian McLaren (even attending his church for a stint). I gobbled-up his “A New Kind of Christian” trilogy because it’s question-asking permissive narrative gave flesh to the phantom that was haunting me at the time… (Online source)
Bouma goes on to tell us that as his “relationship with Emergent progressed” he began “wonder” about a few things concerning the EC; for example, “why it was cool and trendy to disregard Paul, pity the fool who believed in real judgment, ignore the cross, and downplay individual participation in rebellion/sin.” He writes that he “became uncomfortable” with, and has apparently, “grown downright tired of the theology that has bubbled-up out of the emerging church.”
As Bouma then goes on he gives us some serious reason to be quite alarmed that this type of EC theology, not only is being openly embraced within the mainstream of evangelicalism, but has been fed to your youth for years now. It also becomes all the more important to remember here that Bouma’s writing from an insider’s viewpoint when he candidly shares:
I’m not exactly sure when my saucy love affair with emergent and liberal Christianity ended. My “I don’t” isn’t as crystalized as my “I do.” Maybe it was when I read Pelagius‘ writings and realized much of Emergent theology really does mirror his 5th century theology.
Maybe it was after the former head of Emergent Village, Tony Jones, rejected original sin, a historic part of the Rule of Faith, claiming that it is “neither biblically, philosophically, nor scientifically tenable. “.
Maybe it was when I read Fredrick Schleiermacher and realized his and modern liberalism’s vapid, gospel-less faith are being repackaged and popularized to an unsuspecting, ignorant Christian community as a wholesome alternative to what has been.
Maybe it was after I read Karl Barth and realized the natural theology pushed by popular emergent theologians is not revitalizing Christian faith, but killing it; it is the same kind of faith Barth so vociferously fought against in order to preserve the historic Rule of Faith.
Maybe it was after reading a leading emerging church voice suggest that God and grace and the Kingdom of God are not tied directly and exclusively to Jesus Christ; ultimately its not really about Jesus, but about a vanilla, generalized World-Spirit god (lower-case “g”)… (Online source)
In fairness to Jeremy, let me also draw your attention to where Bouma quite specifically informs his readers that he’s not on a “heresy hunt”; nor has he suddenly become one of “the hyper-fundamentalists who exalt themselves as Truth Defenders.” And I agree with Bouma concerning the importance of what he says in his post today because he is saying “au revoir” having “been on the inside of and involved with this conversation for half a decade.”
He then reiterates and points out that he:
I attended Brian McLaren’s church; I helped host the Church Basement Roadshow at my church for Tony Jones, Doug Pagitt, and Mark Scandrette; I’ve had several interactions with Doug Pagitt, someone I like as a person and who even introduced me to my wife and attended our wedding; and I am personal friends with the coordinator of the Emergent West Michigan cohort who is also a member of the new Coordinating Council for Emergent Village. (Online source)
Bouma’s correct in that he’s writing here as “an insider who is simply leaving the inside.” It also looks to me that Steve Knight realized the EC now needs to swing into damage control mode as the new book by EC guru Brian McLaren, which is as close to a systematic theology of EC beliefs as we’ve seen, is about to drop. You see, it will essentially confirm what Bouma’s just told us above concerning the EC as a Liberalism 2.0 i.e. a reimagined form of quasi-univeralist Progressive Christianity.
See also:
THE EMERGING CHURCH SOWING ITS NEO-ORTHODOX CONFUSION ON SCRIPTURE
PHIL JOHNSON ON THEOLOGICAL LIBERALISM
TONY JONES, THE EMERGING CHURCH AND PROGRESSIVE CHRISTIANITY
SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION AND “INSIGHTFUL” EMERGING CHURCH HERETIC TONY JONES
IN THE EMERGING CHURCH OOZE CONVERSION IS OUT
APPRISING MINISTRIES WITH A PEEK AT THE COMING SOTERIOLOGY OF EMERGENCE CHRISTIANITY
THE MORPHING EMERGING CHURCH MOVEMENT
February 8, 2010
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New Book Release: A Sincere and Pure Devotion to Christ
Devotional works from Dr. Sam Storms: “These meditations on 2 Corinthians will help readers grow in their devotion to Christ and find their joy in him.
Second Corinthians is unique in the New Testament in the way it portrays the sufferings of Paul and the supremacy [...]
February 8, 2010
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By this divine work the sinner is re-created in and to newness of life, has the defilement of his heart cleansed or “washed” away (Ezek. 36:25-26; John 3:5; Titus 3:5), and is [supernatually] enabled to “see” and to “enter” the kingdom of God by faith (John 3:3, 5).
He is also enabled to believe in Jesus (John 1:12-13), to believe Jesus is the Christ (1 John 5:1), to love others, particularly other Christians (1 John 4:7; 5:1); and to do righteousness and to shum the life of sin (1 John 3:9; 5:18). (A New Systematic Theology Of The Christian Faith, 719)
Dr. Robert L. Reymond
February 8, 2010
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By this divine work the sinner is re-created in and to newness of life, has the defilement of his heart cleansed or “washed” away (Ezek. 36:25-26; John 3:5; Titus 3:5), and is [supernatually] enabled to “see” and to “enter” the kingdom of God by faith (John 3:3, 5).
He is also enabled to believe in Jesus (John 1:12-13), to believe Jesus is the Christ (1 John 5:1), to love others, particularly other Christians (1 John 4:7; 5:1); and to do righteousness and to shum the life of sin (1 John 3:9; 5:18). (A New Systematic Theology Of The Christian Faith, 719)
Dr. Robert L. Reymond
February 8, 2010
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Here’s a really good video representation of what we do here in Arizona–and wherever we find ourselves really! Rob-roy Nelson produced this video. Well done!
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February 8, 2010
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